Practising Muslims to overtake churchgoers

Damian Thompson has a piece on his blog about practising Muslims outnumbering churchgoing Britons. Shock horror! I think this needs to be taken apart as a statement of "fact". Just turning up at a mosque doesn't make one a believer practising or otherwise. It just acts as a number cruncher.

When I moved to a parish in Surrey at the age of 5, our local church was responsible for 5,000 souls. Most of these lived in their own homes. There were some flats, subdivided Victorian houses, but not much else. 500 souls fairly regularly attended church. In the middle of the 1950's we had "Holy Communion", Mattins and Evensong and a service for the local prep school. Excluding the school, around 10% of the parish were known attenders. Over the years the parish grew in numbers, mainly by new flats and knocking the old Victorian houses down to make way for executive homes. Interestingly quite a few of the newcomers were not from church backgrounds. We got to 10,000 in the parish, but our congregation had dwindled to 100 regulars. We were now down to 1% of the parish. Mattins had gone into the ecclesiastical history book, Evensong was attended by stalwarts ("I'm not a Eucharist man, myself!" was one remark I will always remember) and the new, but not always reliable, Sung Eucharist. We soldiered on, or they did, because I'm not there now. I believe it's still around the same number of 100 today.

A lot of Muslim men go to the mosque today very much like CofE men did in the Fifties. A core belief in God was there, no question. But the meeting of friends, catching up with gossip and, it has to be said, being seen to be there was essential. As soon as the social stigma of not being in church receded, so those not so sure of it all drifted away. Many Muslims will drift away as they are doing now. I don't say this with any sense of pride, pleasure, sadness or bewilderment. It's merely an observation and comment. But I think it is valid.

When I was 5 we had no Muslims in our parish. There was one Hungarian! Muslims were generally known as Mohammedans and I had a visions of ragheaded men with long swords brandishing their weapons at each other whilst on horseback. Or else they were being thrown from turreted towers in sandy deserts. There were a lot of books like this for children then. And adults sometimes gave lurid descriptions of the Middle East. Now it is all very different. Mosques are in this country just as much as in the Middle East.

This isn't so much about adherents to a religion as about our attitudes to immigration. The British discuss immigration in rather the same way as they do sexual activity. It's all innuendo, half-truths and involvement with carpets and sweepers!

I now go to a church in a parish that is overwhelmingly Muslim. It's Birmingham, multi-cultural, and lively. We are a catholic parish in a brave new world. I don't sense I have much to worry about with my Muslim neighbours. No, it's more the illiberal attitudes of so-called liberal Christians who can't stand anyone with a view they do not hold. The Church of England is currently not as inclusive as they like to think.

Cafe fan banned in case smell of bacon offends Muslims

Now this is a case of political correctness (or more truthfully political stupidity) causing offense all round. This time its the morons from Stockport Council, no doubt being watched by the Cheshire Cat, who have deemed the smell of bacon cooking in a cafe may offend passing Muslims. This council, by the way, is run by LibDems. Come on, get a life, there's a national crisis on!

This whole nonsense was caused by a guy called Graham Webb-Lee, who complained that his Muslim friends refused to visit him becase they ''can't stand the smell of bacon.'' He lives next to the cafe. However, he has apparently been complaining on and off to the council who seemed totally uninterested in his complaints until he got a load of Muslim friends and mentioned this to the council officials. Oh, boy, that changed their tune. They were round to the cafe owner, Turkish Muslim Cetin Akciecek, to read the riot act.

I suppose the next thing is Cetin being marched off for "retraining". The whole thing is outrageous and is just another reason why the Coalition needs to get rid of these morons when cutting council jobs.

Halal in a teacup!

Domino's Pizzas have decided to open up a halal only pizza outlet in Hall Green, Birmingham, because they say Muslims would prefer it. I say so what, is that news? Apparently so, because some have said it discriminates against non-Muslims. They don't want to go in and find these "new" pizzas being promoted.

Now if the people doing the complaining are vegetarians or vegans, then that would be a bit odd, because they don't eat meat anyway. If it is a group of Christians then that would be a bit odd too. For the simple reason that Christians are told by Christ that it matters not what they eat but what comes out of their mouths in the form of spoken words.

I would humbly suggest that Domino's Pizzas does not bother with this any further. The only people complaining are those that are upset by the halal thing in the first place. That is a different issue. I eat halal meat whenever I visit an Indian takeway that is run by Muslims. It's not done me any harm or anyone else that I know.

What does do us harm is saying nasty things about people. Strong debate is one thing, stirring it up is another.